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The Tolkien Road - Ep110 - The Lord of the Rings - Bk4 - Ch9 - Shelob's Lair

John Carswell | Monday, June 05, 2017

Concerning “Shelob’s Lair”, from a stifling stench to a salvific starlight...





  • The Lair - 10:00
  • The Phial - 16:30
  • The Hobbits Escape - 28:00
  • Shelob's Story - 34:00
  • Sam vs. Gollum - 43:30
  • Haiku / Correspondence - 47:00

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James Lindberg commented on 21-Jun-2017 04:12 PM

Hi John and Greta! I was thinking (I know it's dangerous and I shouldn't do it lol) about Shelob and Ungoliant. Why do you think it is that Ungoliant hungered for light (consuming the two trees and countless jewels) and Shelob feared it so? Perhaps Ungoliant hoped to drink all the light and plunge the world into a total darkness where she could hide anywhere. Maybe she passed tales of her exposure to the light and the pain it caused her to her offspring. Care to speculate?


John Carswell commented on 23-Jun-2017 04:15 PM

Hmmm...great question. I really haven't the foggiest. I think the best I can come up with (total speculation) is that both are manifestations of the same hatred. But that's the more I noodle on it, the more I want to consider it. Maybe we can pose this question on a future episode...or maybe we can do a video discussion of it on a future Patreon video...


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